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Says Naomi Smith

Says Naomi SmithIt is all too possible to round a corner on horseback and come upon a group of cattle with no prior warning -this WILL result in a horse being badly spooked at best, bolting at worst -it is only a matter of time ........... read more

Natural England MAGIC maps

Bob Milton writes to Robert Morris
Lead Advisor - Casework GI and Mapping
Open Access & National Trails team
Natural England

"Your answer does not help or actually answer my issues "

Says Bob Milton

Bob Milton resigns!Unfortunately your answer does not help or actually answer my issues. You do not indicate how to get the data updated or what to do when mistakes are found as I have indicated and the inability of your system to differentiate in the information click as to what the higher right is as I previously have illustrated we get information that the s15 is in relation to NT and MoD land but where s193 applies.

This I am sure NE officers get confused especially as they are not required within NE to avail themselves of all public rights over land to which they wish to make stewardship agreements. It would be extremely beneficial to all concerned for the information to be accurate. The changes now being made under the CA2006 for re registration are not entered as there is no system for review.

One of the bug bears in the reinforcement of the misinformation being peddled by the website is the existence of s9CRA1965 vesting in local authorities for protection which is not show and so LAs and NE officers are making unlawful claims as to ownership and the ability to claim legal control so as to pay EU stewardship. This is happening as is the payment of stewardship for statutory duty

Robert Morris
Natural EnglandLead Advisor - Casework GI and Mapping
Open Access & National Trails team
Natural England writes to Bob Milton

"We show both CROW Access and Section 15 on MAGIC in order to show the differences between the two"

Says Robert Morris

In response to your enquiry regarding data shown on the MAGIC maps.

We show both CROW Access and Section 15 on MAGIC in order to show the differences between the two. In a lot of cases they do indeed overlap and this helps NE case officers identify where CROW rights exist and they do not. This enables us to identify where higher rights apply and allow us to identify areas where CROW restrictions would not be allowed.

As you aware the CROW Access data is a hybrid set of data derived from The CROW Section 4 Conclusive map of open country and RCL with certain areas of excepted land and S28 restrictions removed, it also includes areas of CROW S16 (dedicated) land, this is shown as land mapped under CROW be we do state that some areas do fall under categories of CROW S15 and CROW rights will not apply on these sites.

Says Bob MIltonBob Milton writes to Defra about their MAGIC maps

"There is an anomaly. You should read the Commons Act 2006"

Says Bob MIlton

There seems to be an anomoly in your mapping display which I am sure is causing confusion within your organisation and the work done by NE officers.

You show both s15 and Crow access on the same areas. This is incorrect as CROW does not apply to s15 land nor does it apply to any land to which s193 applys but is unregistered due to a mistake by the common commissioners as illustrated by the judgement in the HoL 1990 - HCC v Milburn for manorial waste. You should read the Commons Act 2006

Says Linda Wright

Says Linda WrightWe moved to a Shropshire location a year ago having surveyed the local OS map and noted the significant number of bridleways around the property. Sadly the map appears a total fiction. Scarce any of the bridleways are usable ........... read more

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