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RIDER RIGHTS

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Says Adrienne Yentis

Says Adrienne YentisA friend of mine recently was riding on the heath
and she came across a group of cattle strung out across the bridlepath with no way through – the only way off was to turn round. Fortunately her horse
remained calm throughout. But you can imagine how a nervous horse might react ........... read more

Alice Holt Forest, Hampshire

"DON'T PAY TO RIDE AND DON'T COMPLY WITH THE NO HORSE RIDING SIGNS"

Says Tony Barnett

Says Tony Barnett THE HOLT IS COMMON LAND,NOT REGISTERED, BUT NEVERTHELESS PUBLIC OPEN ACCESS COMMON LAND, FREE FROM ANY LAWFUL OR LEGAL IMPEDIMENTS, VISIBLE OR VERBAL.

THE DEMANDS FOR PAYMENT TO ACCESS ON HORSE WHETHER BELONGING TO AN ORGANISATION OR NOT IS FRAUDULENT.

THIS STATEMENT WILL REMAIN UNLESS AND UNTIL IAIN SKINNER OR THE HEAD OFFICE CAN DISCLOSE DOCUMENTATION THAT PRE REGISTRATION OF TITLE DEEDS CAN BE DISCLOSED TO PRE-DATE 1189.

HOWEVER, AS THE COMMON LAND IS CROWN LAND, THE FORESTRY COMMISSION HAS ONLY MANAGEMENT JURISDICTION, NO MORE RIGHTS THAN A REGISTERED OR PURPORTED COMMONERS RIGHTS AND THAT IS TO THE PRODUCT.

COMMONERS, OBVIOUSLY ACCEPTED DO HAVE RIGHTS TO GRAZING AND TO EASTOVERS, MR.SKINNER/ CROWN HAVE RIGHTS TO THE TIMBER, BUT NOT RIGHTS TO REGULATE THROUGH PERMIT OR ANY OTHER LICENCE SCHEME.

I WOULD SUGGEST TO THOSE THAT HAVE OR ARE SUBJECT TO REGULATION AND ANY OTHER CONDITIONS TO ACCESS THIS COMMON LAND DEMAND ALL MONIES PAID OVER TO TROT ON BEHALF OF MR SKINNER, ACTING AS "GRANTOR/OWNER" OF THE HOLT.

TROT HAVE NO EXCUSE, THEY, AS AN ORGANISATION SHOULD HAVE EXAMINED DOCUMENTATION TO SHOW THAT THE CONCESSION TO RIDE THE HOLT WAS LAWFULLY GIVEN.

THE PERMANENT SURFACE (TARMACADAM) ROAD WAY OVER COMMON LAND IS PROHIBITED AND AS SUCH THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC LIABILITY INSURANCE, TROT, BY TAKING UP THE CONCESSION HAVE ASSURED HORSE RIDERS THAT THE ACCESS IS SAFE AND COVERED BY INSURANCE SHOULD ACCIDENTS OCCUR, THE COMMISSION IS NOT IN A POSITION TO EVEN IMPLY SAFETY, THEY HAVE NO JURISDICTION OTHER THAN TO TAKE TIMBER.

I AM LED TO BELIEVE THAT THE REASON WHY HORSE RIDERS HAVE HAD IMPOSED A PAYMENT STRUCTURE UPON THEM IS BECAUSE THEY DO NOT UTILISE THE CAFE FACILITIES OR THE VISITOR CENTRE, ARE THEY LEGAL ANYWAY, HAS CONSENT BEEN APPLIED FOR, ARE THEY TO INSURED?

ANYWAY, DON'T PAY TO RIDE AND DON'T COMPLY WITH THE NO HORSE RIDING SIGNS.

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Says Linda WrightSays Linda Wright

We moved to a Shropshire location a year ago having surveyed the local OS map and noted the significant number of bridleways around the property. Sadly the map appears a total fiction. Scarce any of the bridleways are usable ........... read more

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